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to turn to the president now. he is on his way to montana for another health care town hall. why montana? is there an expectation for a lively debate at this town hall? >> montana is a historical red state. there might be a bit more of an opportunity for controversy. on tuesday in portsmouth, new hampshire, he solicited more skeptical questions. we will see if that plays out. montana is also the home of max baucus. that committee will be the center of gravity. when congress comes back in the middle of september, the white house has set this deadline for the committee. if it does not, the white house has indicated, it might proceed strictly on its own without the -- without republicans on board. max baucus is a central figure in this legislative drama. rick: we want to hear from you if you have received an unsolicited email from the white house. tell us about it. for moron this, we have a couple of great guests. we're also joined by an editor for "the national review." everybody hates chain letters. >> particularly, if they are coming from the white house. rick: what do you make all of th
in a second. we understand this town hall meeting in montana today for president obama could be a little more rowdy, as you put it on politico than the new hampshire one. why? >> willie, when "morning joe" talks, the white house perks up, if we can continue our talk analogies here. >> sure. >> what did joe, what did chuck todd, what did pat buchanan say yesterday? they said the president would have been better off at that town hall this week if the president had answereded critics, had taken tough questions. it's not like president obama would be thrown off his script by some dude standing up in a town hall. so for this afternoon's montana edition, the white house gave out their tickets a little differently. instead of giving the tickets to supporters or more care-free controlled, they went to two town halls in montana and gave them out on a first served -- first curve -- that will ultimately be the question. first come first served basis so it may be a little more tougher questioning this time for colorado. in a day or two the president will go back to the white house method of ticketing. 1,
's meeting in montana. joining us from big sky montana is mike emanuel. good morning early to you. how did this town hall meeting go yesterday? spent it was pretty good, alysin president obama today will be parked tourist in chief taking his family to yellowstone park, doing another town hall event in grand junction, colorado. the president yesterday was in belgrade, montana, the home state of max baucus was in the middle of healthcare reform negotiations as chairman of the senate finance committee. the pitching montana is with healthcare reform. insurers would not be able to drop you if you become seriously ill. mr. obama's town hall and montana had a very campaign to appeal there was thought president obama might get feisty questions from people opposed to healthcare reform the present mostly softball questions and made reference to some of the fireworks we have seen on the news this summer with members of congress singles events. what's take a listen. st. ann out there has been a lot of attention paid to some of the town hall meetings on time around the country, especially when tepper's
for that reason, too. >>> the president's going to go on the road tomorrow, a town hall meeting in montana, max bachus's backyard. if there was ever a time to call out a colleague and not giving the president what he wants, it would be max backus. what's the mission here? >> the mitts is none too subtle. carol lee tomorrow on politico is reporting that the tickets will be given out for the president's town hall on health care in a little different way, first come, first served, which means there could be more dissent and a little more excitement. people have said the president is good at asking questions, he should go ahead and take the tough questions, nobody is going to rattle him, and he doesn't get tagged with the suggestion he does, that the questions were too easy, because the people were screaming, so maybe a little excitement tomorrow night in montana. >> thanks, mike. mike allen from politico tonight with us on "the ed show." >>> what is your church doing about health care? anything? i'm calling on the leadership of the christian community to explain to me where they stand, and when it
at this point, rick. >> rick: we watched the president in colorado and he did the same thing in montana the other day and has the opening statement and takes off his jacket and rolls up his sleeve, and this is a president who looks more like a candidate, like he did before super tuesday last year, does it feel like you are covering a campaign? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, rick, it certainly does, i mean, three town halls in five days, and from new hampshire to montana, to colorado, and now we're in arizona, and so, feels like campaign mode and the president telling people yesterday in grand junction go out and knock on doors and spread the message of health care reform and he's doing what he has done best, silt ell it i person and rolls up his sleeves and whatever you are asking, your opponent, bring their questions and definitely feels like we are back in campaign mode. >> rick: mike, thanks so much. >> jamie: the president's colorado town hall, was mostly filled with supporters who didn't challenge the president or his reform efforts. at least until the end when 23-year-old zach lon
expect or what can we expect from the crowd in montana? >> we are hearing that outside this airport hangar there will be demonstrations. a local tea party group predicts hundreds rallying against this legislation but there are at least one group supporting healthcare reform that will be there. in new hampshire outside there was a little bit of a rally but inside a more sympathetic crowd than we have seen at the confrontational town halls. the white house said nobody was preselected, that not all town halls are screaming matches. tuesday in new hampshire this was done by an onstar hotline lottery. today it is a line-up of first-come, first-served so we expect the dynamic could be different. as you mentioned senator max baucus will be attending. his home state. he is the key figure. he is part of the gang of six a bipartisan group, three republicans, lee democrats trying to negotiate in the senate a compromise deal. so a key figure. bill: polling shows a drop in the support of the healthcare reform bill. how is the white house reacting to that? >> we had a relevant poll out yesterday
a town hall meeting in montana. may be rowdier than the crowd in new hampshire earlier this week. usually they told signups on a web site. but tickets are being handed out on a first come first come basis. town halls have been heating up as you know all around the country this month. we will keep you potioned on what happens there secretary of state hillary clinton is wrapping up her trip to africa. this morning right now she is in cape verde day preparing to talk with nevez. she met with lie brotherrian leaders and spoke about democracy. >> there are no image wandz or i would have brought one for every one of you there are no quick fixes for countries making the transition from violent conflict to lasting peace and stability. alisyn: clinton toured seven african nation to bolster economic ties. brian: michael vick will try to resurrect his career with the eagles. he signed an option for a second year. the deal worth about $7 million. vick is backed in the league less than a month after being conditionally reinstated. following his prison term on dogfighting charges. so what do football f
. >> what else is he doing in montana? >> i hope that he will be enjoying the big sky country. i do not have any announcements on that today. at least i can lean on that side of it. >> i want to follow-up on what truck was asking. he is the top senator on the senate finance committee. the president wants a bipartisan bill. senator grassley said no public option. yesterday, he had a chance to clarify the death panel thing and he said that people have the right to be afraid of it. can you still count seriously chuck grassley as an ally in getting the health care bill passed? >> i think there's still the possibility of getting bipartisan agreement through the finance committee in order to make progress on a piece of legislation that can pass the senate. they're obviously the three republican senators who are involved in this. we hope to quell the misconceptions that apparently are held even by some in the senate. about what the bill is and what the bill is not. we will continue to hope that they can make progress. whether or not it happens, i do not know. >> he seems to be doing rope a dope wit
with the benefits or large out of pocket fees. now, mr. obama is on a four-day western trip. first up, in montana where yesterday he focused on patients who get dropped by their insurance companies in today's web address. the president says he realizes there's skepticism about his proposal. especially at a time of economic upheaval, but he asked for a discussion where we lower our voices. his town halls lacked the raucous crowds that some congressional democrats have faced, but he did take a couple of tough questions yesterday. >> and that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here, you're saving over there, you're going to take a little money here, a little money there, but you have no money. >> you're absolutely right. that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. you're right. >> even some republicans are facing confrontation al crowds in their towns. senator chuck grassley is coming to the table with democrats. a larger theme in many of these forums is mistrust of big government solutions and republicans are hammering that message. >>
: president obama takes his health care crusade to a town hall in montana. we will let you know what happened this time. >> you ought to go to one of those congressional health care meetings. [ laughter ] >> you would do really well there. >> plus, bill clinton takes on a heckler and jumps into the health care reform fray. >> i'm telling you, i don't care how low they drive support for, this with misinformation, the minute the president signs a health care reform bill, approval will go up. laura: is clinton helping obama or upstaging him? dick morris will analyze the situation. >> i don't think that it's going to be real pleasing for americans to consider health care being taken over by the feds. laura: the power of sarah palin. why she may be one of the most powerful voices in the health care reform debate. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- laura: hi, i'm laura ingraham, in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. when democra
for 70% of the audience town halls there will be another one in montana tomorrow. 30% are set aside to sympathetic officials in the region. that's how things will be conducted in montana. white house says they like a rigorous robust debate. whether they get in their own town halls probably not. lawmakers are. shepard: thank you. mixed news from the jobs market. the number of americans filing new claims for unemployment benefits went up unexpectedly last week. that's according to the department of labor which reports there were 4,000 more first time claims than the week before. but at the same time we learned the total number of americans continuing to receive jobless benefits fell by more than 140,000, to just more than 6.2 million. the so-called experts were way off in guessing how much money spent in stores last month. they were expecting retail sales to rise, almost 1%. they did not. they went down. july sales down 0.1% in june it would have been worse had it not been cash for clunkers program. auto sales were up big last month. take those out of the pictures and retail sales wou
has the right plan to fix health care. the president and first lady will arrive in montana a few hours from now. he will hold a town hall just before 3:00 eastern. getting involved in a informed debate. you can watch the president's town hall live from montana right here on msnbc. our coverage set to begin at 2:55 eastern time. he may have one less rumor to deal with. the end-of-life provision, which some argued would end with death panels. here is an interesting note on former governor, sarah palin, who led the charge on criticizing this. it looks as though palin supported end of life while governor. in 2008, governor palin declared a, quote, health care decisions day, which called for more awareness and the need to plan ahead for decisions needed to end a life. nobody knows how that specifically differs from what had been in the health care plan nationally. >> fun death panels. god help us. we know president obama and the drug industry reach add deal on health care reform that involves billions in concessions, and we know the industry will spend $50 million to lobby for the president
's why you'll see the president going to a town hall meeting tomorrow in montana and then off to colorado on saturday. lou? >> now, this sounds awfully like manufacturing. it sounds like astro turf on the part of the white house which is the very same press secretary robert gibbs was -- well, has been moaning within the past week. all of the noise, as they see it, some of the misinformation as they are calling it at these town hall meetings out there. and they said, yeah, there is that concern. obviously, though, the white house hoping that they will base it on facts and not any misinformation as they see it. what they are trying to do is knock it all down. we are seeing such an aggressive effort with the town hall meetings and then i take you back to when the president was in new hampshire and he started off his town hall by telling folks that, you know, i want to hear from people who don't agree with me. and then at the end when most of the questions were relatively easy questions, then he started asking, anybody here disagree with me? they really try to at least from a marketing standp
conversations with members of the finance committee friday in montana and others. our preference is to work through this process and hopefully come out with a bill that has agreement among both parties on that. >> are you expecting any republican votes for this bill in the senate or the next? >> i think there are many that would like to see some health care reform. i trust that the three republicans that are working in the senate finance committee are doing so in good faith. i have no reason to believe they are not. >> the question is, how is it that you think you can achieve a bipartisan bill when it seems you are having trouble achieving a partisan bill? the divisions between the democratic party right now, between the blue dogs and the progressives in the house? >> i think that sort of -- there are blue dogs on the energy and commerce committee that voted out a bill on the house side before we left for recess. i think this notion that there -- it's impossible even to get agreement on our side on what a health care plan looks like belies the notion that this is a piece of legislation that
are looking at pictures of the first family as they board air force one enroute to montana today, where the president will be holding a town hall meeting on health care in bozeman, one of two in the next couple of days. there are expectations that he will get protests and tough questions. off they go, boarding. it is set to begin at 2:15 eastern time. gregg: the philadelphia eagles holding a news conference momentarily to announce what we already know officially, that michael vick will return to the game after an 18-month prison sentence of four charges relating to dogfighting. the gory details include electrocuting and drowning unwanted animals. a spokesperson for people for the ethical treatment of animals issued a statement a saying, "what sort of message does this send to fans who care about animals and do not want to see them harmed? since vick has not given a public acknowledgment that he is remorseful, time will tell." vick could receive nearly $7 million. when he first joined in 2002, he was drafted to the falcons for $62 million. since then, he has found himself not just behind
returns to the town hall stage tomorrow in montana. now, ali velshi has been on the road all week long holding his own version of the town hall meeting listening to what people are saying about health care reform and he's not running for office. not trying to keep his seat. he's just in search of real people with real concerns. ali's found his way to sedalia, missouri, not too far from kansas city. ali, from your perspective in talking to folks on the road trip, how effective are these town halls? what do you think? >> reporter: well, everybody's heard of them or seen them. it has been the talk of the week. in fact, we've been talking to people about the economy all week generally, but somehow every conversation makes its way back to health care. and i think people have been influenced by them in some fashion because they've heard things being said. they've heard people talking about the government lying or the fact that it will be government control or they won't have choices about their doctors. or their health care. there's definitely been -- there have been things that have been pi
'll also speak this week at town halls in montana and grand junction, colorado. >>> update on a high-speed car chase we brought you just moments ago. lasted about an hour. started about 11:45 eastern time in the upper san fernando valley. a blue honda swerving in and out of lanes driving the wrong way on surface streets going very erratically. the car finally slowed down and as you'll see in a moment, it went into a driveway and that's where police with weapons drawn boxed him in. officers pulled in and pulled the driver out. the suspect was arrested and here is the take down. he had his hands up, but he would not comply with orders to get out, apparently. so, first one officer and then the second move in and pull him out. this chase apparently started after the driver failed to yield. >>> the kennedy family is in mourning and for the death of eunice kennedy shriver, the sister of john f. kennedy died this morning. she founded the special olympics. her daughter was by her side at a massachusetts hospital. she was 88 years old. shriver's son-in-law, california governor arnold schwarze
to have a more open debate, would you consider, for example, in montana, giving the republican congress -- >> i think the president feels very comfortable with the fact these having a representative discussion despite people's disappointment, that he wasn't yelled at. >> i don't doubt that if you look at the protests that we saw outside of the building yesterday, as a continuum from the t.e.a. parties and controversy over the birth certificate and some of the anger over the gates/crowley episode, i wonder -- >> let me just -- i go in the front door. i -- i don't doubt that but i'm saying -- i didn't see a representative sample the science. >> this is a president who campaigned on the notion that we could get beyond the partisan -- the ugly partisan warfare of the last 60 years. there could be, you know, rational discussion that could bring parties together. and i wonder what happened to that, why did the postpartisan presidency not materialize? >> jonathan, again, i -- i don't know if you were outside or inside, but i think there was a rational discussion about issues not based on ideol
parties. the president again met with senator baucus on friday in montana. they discussed the progress being made between democrats and republicans on the finance committee. that's our focus. >> senator grassley this morning talking about broad-based support for health care legislation that so far, no one has developed that kind of support. neither in congress nor at the white house. that doesn't mean we should quit. it means we should keep working and put things together to get widespread support. >> the white house completely agrees with what senator grassley says there. that's why i said this morning that our preferred option is to go the route of getting all those involved that are at the table to agree to something that can be supported by both parties. i can't speak to what republicans will ultimately end up doing. the president doesn't have control over every person's vote on this. he can and will continue to work to try to get agreement on both sides of the aisle on this. the president believes this issue is far too important to not try. to walk away from a perfect opportunity
, montana, and grand junction, colorado. dan lothian, cnn, the white house. >>> white house press secretary robert gibbs was on the defensive as i said on the issue of whether the president misrepresented the aarp's position on health care. we're going to play for you the entirety of that section of the press briefing from the question onward. let's listen. >> yesterday the president said aarp endorsed the plan. as you're aware, aarp said yesterday it hasn't endorsed the plan. where on the information or disinformation scale would the president's remark fall? >> well, the president said -- aarp said they are certainly supportive and have been for years on comprehensive health reform. i don't think the president meant to imply anything untoward. i think he discussed the notion that aarp is supportive of -- an agreement that would fund filling the doughnut hole for seniors as part of medicare part d as well as additional savings vings for comprehensive health care. >> [ inaudible ] aarp hasn't endorsed the house pending slax. >> which is what i've just said. >> he's aware of that. he wasn't t
again for this weekend for two town hall meetings, first on friday in bolton, montana, then saturday in grand junction, colorado. wolf? >> he's going to be busy at both those meetings and other stops, as well. thanks very much, dan lothian. jack cafferty has "the cafferty file." jack? >>> there is another view of this, of course. when it comes to town hall meetings, the democrats might want to rethink their strategy. arlen specter and claire mccaskill are the latest to be drowned out by protesters. one woman in missouri told mccaskill, quote, if they don't let us vent our frustrations out, they will have a revolution, unquote. protesters at arlen specter's meeting said they think the obama administration is going too far with health care reform. one woman shouted out, quote, this is about dismantling this country. specter said he thinks the people proetsdsing are, quote, not necessarily representative of america, but he thinks they should be heard. president obama and the democrats seem to face an increasingly uphill battle with selling health care reform to a skeptical public. peopl
against critics of health care reform. he heads west this week for more meetings in colorado and montana. the white house has created a website to counter critics. >>> at the forum hosted by pennsylvania arlen specter was raucous. details from national political correspondent, jessica yellin. >> reporter: anxiety, fear, confusion. add summer heat and you've got a potent combination for a health care town hall. frustration on the sidewalk out front. >> why don't they take the health care being forced down our throat? yeah, why don't you go home! why don't i have freedom? because we elected somebody that wants to take our freedom. where does my opinion count at? >> we're entitled to be here just like you! just like you! >> reporter: and inside the auditorium. >> wait a minute! wait a minute. you want to leave? leave. >> i am going to speak my mind before i leave, because your people told me i could. >> i'm angry. i'm an american citizen. i'm a voter. i'm a taxpayer. i'm sick of the lies. >> reporter: the man at the center of it all? senator arlen specter worked to displmyths about health c
heirs. in return on social security is not as good as a private plan. host: hamilton, montana. you are next on the republican line. caller: carmen, montana. come on, you know me. host: i should have known. caller: i have been talking to you for over 10 years. this guy is not young. his party promotes nothing but freed them, but i do not know why you left boobs like this on tv. why do you let this jerkoff on tv? host: we are going to stop it there. thank you for coming in. guest: that is a pretty big accusation, but we are moving in the current administration, that we may double the national debt in 15 years, if we continue on this path. that is what roosevelt did. we doubled in national debt from 1932 to 1940, and we still have 20% unemployment. that is what we did in the 1930 's, and the danger is we are doing it again today. host: young americans for freedom. they tend to be republican younger people. the birther. he concludes by saying, is this an orchestra did campaign to delegitimize the obama presidency? is the fact that he is a first african-american president a factor? some
with people of the finance committee. as i said during friday in mantegna and others, -- in montana and others, our preference is to work through this process and hopefully come out with a bill that has agreement among both parties in the committee. >> are you expecting any republican votes on this bill in the senate or in the house? >> i think there are many that would like to see some health care reform. i trust that the three republicans that working in the senate finance committee are doing so in good faith. i have no reason to believe that they are not. >> how is it a you can achieve a bipartisan bill when it seems you are having trouble achieving a partisan bill, between the blue dogs and the progressives in the house? >> there are blue dogs on the energy and commerce committee that voted out a bill on the house side before we left for recess. this notion that it is impossible even to get an agreement on our side with what a health care plan looks leg belies the notion that this is legislation that went through three committees on the house side. the notion that we cannot get something d
anything else? >> we have two town halls later in the week, one in montana, one in colorado. then the president will be back here for a bit forç some down time with his family. i do not think there are any specific venue announcements. i think the president believes the format of the town hall, in the ability to discuss directly with people their fears and concerns, has always been a tremendously valuable. >> is there a concern that if this misinformation machine continues, and the record cannot be corrected, as it likes, would it be difficult to get health care reform across? >> if the debate is being dominated by something that is not true, of course. but i do not believe the president believes, when all is said and done, that most people will make their decision based on something that is false, and proven false. çtake a couple questions at a town hall meeting. çwe have seen enough video to know that people are concerned about the bill. take one of those concerns and address it factually. >> so much attention now is being focused on debunking the myth, and you belie
message on health care reform to a meeting in colorado. another town hall. he left montana, then went to grand junction, colorado and doing something his critics said he need today do to try to help to sell health care more effectively, trying to invoke passion and make this about him and this is exactly what he did yesterday. taste a listen. >> i just lost my grandmother last year, i know what it's like to watch somebody you love who is aging deteriorate and have to struggle with that. the notion that somehow i ran for public office or members of congress are in this so that they can go around pulling the plug on grandma? i mean, when you start making arguments like that, that's simply dishonest. >> of course, there, that's all reference to the end of life counsel, which became so controversial, they took it from the bill. i think it's effective, i think it's effective when the president reminds people that he watched his loved one die and so many of us have. >> yes, his grandmother 86 years old. died two days before the election, died of cancer on november the 2nd, but it did bring
committee. friday in montana and others. and our preference is to work through this process and hopefully come out with the bill that has agreement amon. >> do expect any republicans to vote on this bill? >> think many would like to see some health care reform. i trust the the three republicans working in the senate finance committee are doing so in good faith. i have no reason to believe they are not. >> how was it that you think you can achieve a bipartisan bill when it seems you're having trouble achieving a partisan bill? with the divisions between the democratic party right now, between the blue dogs and of the progressives in the house? >> i think that -- there blue dogs on the energy and commerce committee that voted out a bill on the house side before we left for recess. so i think this notion that it is impossible even to get agreement on our side on what a health care plan looks like belies the notion of this is a piece of legislation that went through not one, not two, but three committees on the house side. i think the notion that we cannot get something done like that just is
, the first family will visit the bozeman area of montana. an august 15, they will travel to yellowstone, wyoming and grand junction, colorado. they will then travel to the grand canyon and phoenix, ariz. on august 16 and return to washington, d.c. on monday, august 17. the first family's visit to the national parks occurred during a fee-freeing weekend for our national parks. this is encouraging all people, including the many cynical people that sit on the right end of the front row, my right end of the front row, excuse me. we encourage them to go and visit the national parks. you have to pay. everybody else is exempt. he has been to yellowstone. he tells a story of coming to visit his grandparents that i believe includes stops at yellowstone and grand canyon. it is partly to highlight our national park system and to highlight the weekend where we hope millions of americans will enjoy the national park system and there will be events in addition to some of the stops. we have the best security and the world. yes? >> two topics -- on the economy, the president said in a rose garden that
's going to be starting out in montana, go through some national parks, yellow stone, go through wyoming, then on to colorado and arizona, where he'll also go through the grand canyon with his family. he's going to be doing some town hall meetings. a chance for the president to talk about the economy but also continue that push on health care reform which he considers building the economy. >> thanks very much, ed. let's break down the new unemployment numbers with our chief business correspondent ali velshi. ali, who's faring best and who's faring worst? >> well, it's very different. we have a 9.4% national unemployment rate, but leet's look how it breaks down. men are getting it harder than women, largely because men occupy the types of jobs we've been losing the last several years, construction and manufacturing. adult men have an unemployment rate of 9.8%, higher than the national average, but down by 0.2 percentage points. adult women have a much lower unemployment rate than the national average, to men at 9.8%. let me show you about the job losses that we've seen over the last -- si
front when you get to idaho and montana. some of those will be giant hail makers so we'll watch for those later this afternoon. showers rolling through grand island, nebraska. dropping down the state line towards kansas. then it's the heat. it's back for you. 105 to 110 is the way it's going to make you feel. dallas, houston, in towards tulsa. then you get to places like phoenix and it's going to be 112, 114. 106 is hot even for this year, robin. >>> back to our breaking story. bob, thank you. two american journalists just arrived home after being freed from a north korea prison. we're hearing from them for the first time as they're reunited with their families. >>> talk about the perfect wedding present. what a total stranger gave away to a bride and her bridesmaids free. . >>> more on our breaking story today that we watched here live. two american reporters held in north korea are back in the united states. their plane landed in burbank, california a short while ago. here is the reunion that euna lee had with her little four-year-old daughter. north korea pardoned laura ling
: tomorrow that will be billy ray cyrus. brian: really? steve: hannah montana's dad is going to be on the program. meanwhile, a headline that says "firms with obama ties profit from the health push." it talks about how the health care overhaul is a financial windfall to a couple of democrat consulting firms closely connected to the president and a couple of his top advisors. $24 million worth of ads are being bought and put on tv. the two firms hired, one is gmmb which worked for barack obama during the 2008 campaign, and also akpd. the a stands for axelrod started by david axelrod. of course, he has separated himself from the company. but there are some who are going, now, wait a minute, this seems a little too cozy. the white house denies that mr. axlerod is making any money from it. gretchen: they do still owe him # million from the stock sale. they're going to be making those payments over the next couple of years. but interestingly enough, at that firm that he created, his son still works there. and no surprise that the two top advisors to obama, these are their former j
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or montana or colorado. i think he continues to be very resolved in getting something done on this issue. the president continues to believe that the worst possible outcome is doing nothing because we know what happens when we do nothing. we know that premiums are going to continue to skyrocket, 14,000 people a day are going to lose their proper insurance, but small businesses are going to lose their ability to provide coverage. the leader of the drop the idea of covering employees or drop the number of employees that are covered. and we know that insurance companies are going to continue to discriminate based on whether or not they believe someone has a pre-existing condition or make a determination about whether someone is too sick to receive coverage. that is what doing nothing will do. the president is determined that we will do something to move this process along. >> you are probably aware that a conservative true " -- a conservative group took a shot at the president right as he was leaving for his vacation. i was wonderingpt if you have a response to that, and the larger respons
the record? >> we had two of town halls leader in the week, one in montana 81 in colorado. -- and one in colorado. the president will be back here for a bit and have some down time for his family. i don't doubt we will take this battle of in some earnestness in september, but i don't think there are any specific venue announcements. the president believes the format of the town hall and the ability to discuss directly with people what their concerns are, he finds to be tremendously valuable. >> is he concerned this misinformation machine continues and the record cannot be corrected, that it could make it more difficult to get health care reform? >> if the debate is dominated by something that is not true, of course. i don't think the president believes that when all is said and done that most people will make their decisions on something that is false and that has been said as false. i rant on cable a little bit in answering another question. take a couple questions at a town hall meeting. you guys have shown enough video of people with people withthe bill. take one of those concerns
, nebraska, montana, north dakota. those states had democratic senators who voted for john mccain. he had to win enough of them over the get this bill to the senate. >> is it always a waste of time as paul seems to to suggest that the president could reach out and find some republicans who would work with him the him on this? >> i think he's entirely wrong. the center of gravity of american politics is not in the progressive wing, and the progressive movement is mature enough to understand that and support a president who is more liberal than conservative. if they're not mature enough, they can throttle his chances. but i do think that if the president had more shrewdly laid out his case it would have been harder to criticize it effectively. >> what you mean to say, if he would have come up with a plan instead of letting the democrats in congress come up with a plan. >> i think he allowed himself to have -- a plan with so few details, it's like a rorschach test. project everything positive on me, now they're projecting everything negative on me. >> bill clinton tried that and that didn't
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